Returning To Our Roots: Two Opposing Seeds (Part 3)

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Shalom! This is the third of four sessions on the subject The Two Opposing Seeds - hope you will enjoy. Approximately 26 minutes.

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Returning to our Roots: The Two Opposing Seeds (Part 3) - Audio
This is the third of four sessions in a series called, The Two Opposing Seeds. We originally produced these for Son Broadcasting in Santa Fe, NM. VIDEO. Do not order if you cannot download large files. Download Note: We appreciate your support and hope you get enjoyment from this teaching. We respectively request that you please refrain from posting this teaching on other websites and social media including Facebook and YouTube. We also request that you do not reproduce these teachings on DVD or CD for unauthorized distribution. You may reproduce these teachings for the following exceptions:
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7 Responses to Returning To Our Roots: Two Opposing Seeds (Part 3)

  1. Chuck Peterson says:

    We must take responsibility for choosing to ‘mingle’ seed. The marriage of the Lamb will be a pure marriage, One seed.

  2. JAIME says:

    Shalom…

    Bill… I cannot begin to express the reverberations of this “particular” understanding you are expressing…

    Most assuredly as iron sharpens iron, your teachings have honed a fine edge upon my understanding; “praise YAH”

    I have said from the beginning that your Shofar is the “Clearest & Strongest” in these Days of Elijah…
    I however, find these “particular” views you’re presenting, to put it plainly; “the destruction of several Foundations”

    First; There is no mention in Scripture of “children before Cain and Abel anywhere… this sounds like an “addition”…
    I ask; where is the line upon line foundation on this ?
    The Lord speaking to Eve and Lucifer does not reveal any history, but most assuredly reveals the Future…

    To accept the understanding that Cain and Abel were born “prior” to the FALL, would negate first of all, that Cain, IS the seed of the “other tree”…

    THAT of itself destroys the FOUNDATIONAL “TRUTH” of EVERY SEED REPRODUCING AFTER IT’S KIND…

    To point out; the “seed” brought forth by EVE was both; GOOD/ABEL AND EVIL/CAIN.

    What the Lord teaches me here is the understanding that EVE had already accepted the SEED of the SERPENT “BEFORE” she ever took a “physical bite” of the “physical fruit”…, all that was left for her to do, was to act…

    The Foundational Understanding that the Wheat and Tares are “sown together” in the field is also destroyed here with that “particular” view….
    I ask: Did not Jacob/Wheat and Esau/Tare also come from the same mother ? (THE PATTERN)
    In my understanding, the Scriptures teaches that the Wheat & Tare are sown upon the same ground or more accurately, “same family” even in Isaac and Ishmael, though different mothers, same family… THE PATTERN …

    The “hangup” for many seems to be the statement; “Sons of God”…

    A “PATTERN” as I understand it, is by it’s definition; an outline defined by the repetition of certain parameters, markers, and or functions.
    Using this as a base line, I can retrace every “new outline” not jus by the original, but BACK TO the original, and not just some random sequence, though color and form may change…

    In other words if the markers. parameters, etc. ARE NOT THE SAME, then, that puzzle piece doesn’t fit…., obviously.

    Scripture outlines for us WHO the Sons of God are… “THOSE WHO LIVE (OBEDIENT) BY TORAH”
    As well as the WHO the Tares are……. “THOSE WHO OPPOSE (DISOBEY) TORAH”

    The FOUNDATIONAL UNDERSTANDING that the end is the beginning and the beginning is the end, THEN: “The Sons of God” /WHEAT ARE the ‘OBEDIENT CHILDREN OF ADAM AND EVE”, just as the “MEN OF RENOWN/AUTHORITY” ARE the DISOBEDIENT CHILDREN & TARES….

    What ?……, I ask is the big deal here ?….

    The Sons of God/the obedient, saw the “Daughters of Men/disobedient” that they were “fair”…

    In my vernacular;
    The Wheat saw the Hot looking Daughters of the Tares, lusted after them, took them for wives AND THEN, became corrupted….
    I can certainly testify to this fact in my own life….
    Personally, I’ve not just pursued hot looking serpents, but preferred them with “racing stripes” and smooth lines of definition and structure… (of destruction)
    Allow me to also point out the fact that when I was growing up the “HOT” girls were few and far between… TODAY; a man has an extremely hard time not getting whiplash looking upon the great beauty so gracefully bestowed before his very eyes..

    Discipline of the Soul to fight all the Honeytraps and stay True to Torah, I liken to the “Gates of Hell” being at the front door.. but more precisely, the DAYS OF NOAH..

    Is not a Man/Son/Wheat brought to a piece of bread by a whorish woman ? is not this a Scriptural Truth AND an “established pattern” ?

    As far as “Fallen Angels” are concerned…,
    Scripture states that Angels do not procreate (given in marriage)…
    Besides who is the Creator of Souls ?
    Creation itself is an entity unto itself in the form and function to which the Almighty purposed it for, but the “forming” of a Soul, belongs to Him, as it is said; the very hairs of our head are not just counted, but numbered…. which denotes detailed workmanship…

    My Understanding is that Sons of God is an “IDIOM” for Obedient Children…

    I believe you to be a Rabbi of the Highest Caliber, I DO NOT KNOW HEBREW, and I am ALWAYS subject to Correction and Rebuke by HIS WORD and ONLY, HIS WORD…

    I trust that the Lord will ALWAYS lead US through His Ruach INTO ALL TRUTH…..

    Shalom, Shalom…

    And Oh yes… what are you thinking ? ! #*)*%#@!

    • Bill says:

      Jaime; sorry for the delay but we’ve been traveling in the wilderness.

      If I’m understanding you correctly, my answer would be: the thoughts I put forth on the issue – in my view – don’t, as you say, lead to the destruction of any foundations.

      True – there is no mention of other children before them but, as I believe I pointed out, Eve’s pain in childbearing can’t be multiplied if its never happened.

      Cain’s being “of the wicked one” has nothing to do with physical seed and, thus, birth order has no hearing.

      Finally and perhaps most important: I do not offer this position as absolute fact and doctrine. It is an opinion plain and simple – one that addresses a question many have posed. It may in fact, like so many of our opinions, be way off the mark.

      But as far as “adding” things to the text: I don’t agree with you on this – there are those things that are hinted at and we are left to search other Scriptures to see what the truth is. Sometimes we cultivate opinions based on what we’ve learned and, as it should be, hold them up for scrutiny and discussion.

      I do appreciate your scrutiny and opinions on this matter as well. Again, I’m not suggesting my opinion is the final word; Its just something to consider.

      Sorry for the brevity but I’m writing this as we prepare to leave for our next stop.

      Shalom

  3. JAIME says:

    Shalom…

    Brother; doubtless, the Ruach Hakodesh, is the only path through which we will receive understanding of “all things”.

    I appreciate you taking the time to respond. I can’t imagine how your dedicated schedules keep taking a toll on you and your family. I pray that the Lord will quicken you and your family in not only your endeavors, but with one another in great love,peace and happiness…

    I have gained so much clarity on so many subjects thanks to your faithfulness, I can’t imagine where I would be right now without your tenacity for Truth and bringing to light the Roots of our Faith…
    So as I too seek to understand, I offer this…

    In MY UNDERSTANDING………

    I know that “life” begins at Conception….

    I understand the births of Cain & Abel to be reflective of the births of Esau & Jacob; which to me are the births of 2-opposing seeds……
    And to make this a three fold chord; Isaac and Ishmael must be included because they also fit the pattern, as well as confirm their struggle on earth…

    Not implementing the “FOUNDATIONAL PRINCIPLE” of the Wheat & Tare here; would require for one to turn a blind eye to the fact that God himself states that there were 2-nations, 2-peoples, which in my perspective;is another way of saying 2-seeds…
    An intriguing pattern develops here in which both cases, God is speaking to a woman of 2 Seeds, or 2 peoples who will be against each other….

    I take this understanding and place it next to the Scripture which states; that the Lord “creates” VESSELS of Honor and Dishonor.

    The trajectory which develops stays true to the Principle of the Wheat & Tares.

    The BIG QUESTION one has to consider here is of “Pre-destiny”.

    I personally believe in it….
    Thy Hands have made me and fashioned me; give me understanding that I may learn Thy Commandments.
    Psalm 119 Yod

    Thine eyes saw my substance being yet unformed, and in thy book they all were written; the days fashioned for me, when as yet, there were none…
    Psalm 139

    The fact of the matter remains that the Word of God is the “SEED” but also, the Sons of the Kingdom; are THE SEED, just as the other side of the spectrum is also true…

    “Both” Seeds ARE “spiritual” , Good & Evil.

    “Both” Seeds ARE “flesh”, Wheat & Tares

    I see the Tares as the Seed of the Wicked One needing to be applied to these births which in turn, leads me into a greater realization of….;

    FIRST IS THE PHYSICAL, THEN THE SPIRITUAL…

    As you say brother, to God be the Glory in all things. And yes, it is our humble duty to “test and examine” our understanding as we are admonished to do so..
    Thank you for the opportunity to do so…

    Shalom, Shalom

    • Bill says:

      Jaime; we all are looking through a glass darkly and longing for the day when everything is crystal clear and we are completely conformed to the image of the Incorruptible Seed, the Messiah Y’shua. Shalom.

  4. LaVonne Taylor says:

    Hi Bill,

    I am relatively new to your studies, and love them dearly. In this vid, you mentioned that you had done a study of some kind regarding this verse and that you were doing a “recap.” Can you point me in the direction of where I may find this original discussion so that I can partake of this as well?

    May the Father bless you greatly.

    LaVonne

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